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Thundercat – Swinggcat Interview
In November of 2003, Swinggcat surprised the seduction community with the release of his book “Real World Seduction.” Famous in the Hypnosis/NLP community, respected by some of the best pick-up artists world wide, but relatively unknown to the general populous, Swinggcat quickly joined the ranks of gurus such as David DeAngelo with the amazing debut of his eBook, Real World Seduction, which took a new look at the way Seduction and Attraction can be accomplished. But even with the massive popularity of his book, he’s been elusive. Drawing away from posting on mASF, the SS List, Cliff’s List, and even Mystery’s Lounge, Swinggcat has become a reclusive figure in the seduction community, preferring to let his work speak for itself.
Now, in this exclusive interview, Swinggcat breaks his silence and talks about his background, his development, his theories on seduction and attraction, and what he’s planning for the future. It should be noted that this is a transcribed text of my conversation, and has been edited by me to make it read better.
About Author:
Thundercat is a pickup artist well known in the seduction for his popular website, Thundercat’s Seduction Lair, where every year he posts a list of the top 10 pick up artists. Thundercat (aka Joseph Matthews) runs the controversial blog Thundercat’s Seduction Lair.
Thundercat is a long time community member. He started the Thundercat Seduction Lair in 2004, posting news, interviews and information on the community. The blog has become a central source of information for the industry and it was also mentioned in The Game by Neil Strauss.
Then Thundercat’s PUA ranking came out, and I was number one. I could no longer claim to be a student. Neil Strauss was officially dead. In the eyes of these men, I was Style, the king of the unnaturals. All over the world people were using my jokes, my comebacks, my lines, my words? – Strauss, Neil. The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists. 1st ed. 2005. p.214.
Thundercat launched a product called “Pure Personality”, based on the concept that because he was overweight, he had to learn game in a way that over powers any limitations in looks. As such, his game expertise was developed around the idea of developing a very strong personality and effectively conveying this personality in the shortest amount of time possible.
Having been exalted to a position of great influence within the Seduction Community, Joseph Matthews is well known for his prolific and consistent production of practical advice for men who want to improve their skills with women. Perhaps the most fascinating talent that Joseph brings to the table is his ability to effectively impart the nuts and bolts of pickup and seduction with a disarming candidness towards genuinely valuable material vs. mere “snake oil“. True to form, Joseph joins me ahead of the re-release of his top-notch Renegade Rapport program for a double-barreled discussion of unprecedented depth on creating rapport and what to do with it once established. Build rapport with women before even meeting them? Are you kidding me? Rest assured…he’s not kidding you. What’s next, x-ray vision?
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